FOOD & WINE DISCUSSION

Simona

POSTED: Fri, 05/29/2009 - 7:48pm

Three Meals a Day with no Snacks??

Hello All I am in Australia (which is about as far away from France and French culture as you can get!) and come from Italian parents, so my upbringing was always more European than Australian. The Italians and French have a lot in common in the way they approach food/eating/drinking etc. A bit like Mireille I guess I fell off the wagon with growing up in Australia and adopting the more Australian/American style of eating that my traditional Italian ways. Now as an adult, I see where I went wrong and try to correct it as much as possible and apply my French/Italian style of eating as much as I can. My only issue with what Mireille advocates is 3 meals/day. In Australia - we have 'morning tea' at 10 am and 'afternoon tea' at about 3 pm - much like the British. Unfortunately it isn't just having tea! It is more like a mini meal. Having grown accustomed to this way of eating my whole life (at school we had morning an afternoon tea breaks and now in the workplace, we do as well) I find it hard not to expect to eat something at 10 am and 3 pm. I have tried to eat more at breakfast and lunch in the hope that I don't get that gnawing hunger feeling mid morning/afternoon but nothing seems to work. It seems in Mireille's books that she is very strong about 3 meals/day - but I can't seem to do it! Does anyone else have this problem? And does yoghurt really satisfy this snack urge?
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cwlorente

POSTED: Sat, 08/10/2013 - 9:34pm

Did it.

I got through today on 3 meals and no snacks. Breakfast was yogurt, blueberries and almonds with 1 piece toast (homemade oat bread). Lunch was a grilled tomato and cheese sandwich. Dinner was cold avocado soup (appetizer size), cucumber-tomato salad, a piece of grilled steak with mushrooms, and a glass of wine. I did get hungry just before it was time to cook dinner, but a glass of iced tea helped. Then I got busy cooking and forgot I was hungry. Unbelievable for me, I know. Onward and upward, all of you FWDGF women!

JSB

POSTED: Sat, 08/10/2013 - 9:38pm

Wow!

Carol that it excellent.Congratulations.oxo

Roxie

POSTED: Fri, 01/04/2013 - 1:37am

Three Meals a Day With No Snacks?

Hi I grew up in Australia too. Like you I've been battling the morning tea and afternoon tea per day Vs 3 meals per day. BUT I am also of Spanish descent. My family eats up to 6 meals per day! however, and this is the disclaimer, the meals are not large (except the midday meal - it is usually very filling) and each in-between meal has very little bread (if any) and very high in protein (think chorizos, ham, slices of egg). For years I've fought against eating this way but I can't help it any more. I've been eating the 6 meals per day, but I make sure each meal is very healthy. I have my 6th meal before bed, and its usually a slice of cheese + rice cake. I have very little bread and normally choose white rice instead. Somehow bread bloats me. I love Coles Baguette bread but it turns into a balloon in my belly! if I eat bread it's only a thin slice (which would probably equate to the 30g recommended serving of bread. One thing the Spanish don't eat alot of is yoghurt, which I think is excellent for one of the in-between meals maybe with a little banana. Hope that helps too !

cwlorente

POSTED: Tue, 10/30/2012 - 1:01pm

Never.

I also can not seem to go through a day with "only" three meals a day. Since starting over with FWDGF, I have learned that I need to save indulgences for weekends, but also that I need to eat more for breakfast. Otherwise, I'm snacking all morning--all good stuff, like yogurt, fruit, a handful of almonds--but snacking just the same. I think I can no longer choose between eggs and oatmeal; I think I need eggs *and* oatmeal. Seems like so much food, but honestly, take today for example: I've had toast with peanut butter and tea, then two hours later I had eggs, and an hour later I had yogurt and fruit. It's not even lunchtime yet.

JSB

POSTED: Wed, 10/31/2012 - 6:03pm

Look at..

what you plan to eat over the full day and see if your "snacking"stays within your planned intake for the day.You may be surprised ,pleasantly,that you are eating what is needed but in small portions.In truth I have trouble with three meals a day.When I work ,I work hard and need sustenance between meals.I therefore try to divide my planned food for the day into small portions.It is not always successful,because I eat emotionally.It is a process. oxo

cwlorente

POSTED: Thu, 11/01/2012 - 4:06pm

Thx, Jean.

Good idea, Jean. I guess I knew this in my head but I just hadn't dealt with it yet, thinking it could only mean--dare I use the F word?-- failure. In reality, though, the portions were smaller than average, so you are probably right. Today, for instance, I had two eggs and 1 piece of toast for breakfast, but couldn't finish one bowl of soup at lunch because I was full. I have to space things out more or just not worry about it all, but I tend to obsess over food.

JSB

POSTED: Thu, 11/01/2012 - 4:41pm

You and me kid...

Worry and obsess,trying not to, but a truly bad habit over years is hard to shake.Are you reading the thread about beating the "Diet Mentality"?I am finding the discussion helpful,in changing my thinking.The only failure is the diet industry.You have NOT failed,you have been failed.Thankfully,FWDGF is not a diet.It is a lifestyle.We have been so brainwashed by the diet floggers,that eating and enjoying it is as foreign as Sanskrit to us.Recently,at the end of a terribly trying time in my life,I felt panic about my weight,what I was eating,how "awful"I look.The endless mental berating.Well,I have managed not to go on a diet.I started journaling my food and this made the obsession with a diet worse.I recognize that a journal is a great tool and helps many people.It isn't for me and I have not failed if I don't do it.Let's agree to enjoy our food,appreciate the tastes and textures,eat the way our bodies tell us to do.Somedays that may be 3 meals and others it may be broken into smaller portions.BTW,protein is more filling and does not cause the blood sugar fluctuations that simple carbs.do.The 2 eggs may explain the need for less at lunch.Well done! oxo

cwlorente

POSTED: Thu, 11/01/2012 - 9:55pm

Amen!

And thank you for the support. I *have* been reading the Diet Mentality thread, and it has been helpful. I tried very hard today to just eat what I wanted rather than obsessing over what I "should" or "should not" eat. It was so much easier! Now, if I can continue to pull it off... Hey, if journaling doesn't work for you, don't bother. Why make things more stressful and obligatory? It has to be easy for you, or it won't work.--Carol (I keep forgetting to put my name a the end of my posts. Not being secretive, just forgetful!)

JSB

POSTED: Thu, 11/01/2012 - 11:03pm

Hi Carol

Me too,this was a day of eating what I wanted and I enjoyed it.It is a day at a time for me.It is time to get rid of the "should "and "shouldn't".My relationship with food is going to change.You are so right,it has to be easy.Thanks for your support. oxo

valerie51

POSTED: Sat, 11/10/2012 - 9:38pm

Shoulds and Shouldn'ts

Hi, I have been reading a book about eating intuitively; it is very interesting and has made me think alot about my relationship with food. I make everything surrounding food difficult. I've lived by certain "food rules" or diets for years, and it is so hard to walk away from that. The book points out that we need to change our mindset from being "in control" to being "in charge" of our food choices. If we are in charge, we choose not only foods that work with our individual bodies, but we choose what we are really hungry for. We also make the decision to eat, consciously. We don't just eat without first thinking about what we will eat and why we want to eat. We may not always choose to eat because we are hungry...we may choose to eat in celebration or for another reason than hunger; however, we acknowledge that choice and realize we are in charge of that choice. By eating enough food to be satisfied, we free our minds to think about things other than food. Reading all these things has been food for thought; putting it into practice is painfully slow. It is scary to step out and be in charge of my own eating...no list, no diet, no rules...other than eating what I want, what makes me feel good, what works for my body. As you said Jean, it is easy, but we so often make it very hard. When I make it hard, when I try to control, when I try to use willpower, etc., I begin to obsess about food and thus to overeat things I really don't even always like. Even though there are general healthy eating guidelines we can all follow, each of us has to adapt those guidelines to what will best work for our bodies.

yogamomma

POSTED: Tue, 06/05/2012 - 4:44pm

Snacking

I try to keep snacking to a minimum, but that is not always possible, especially with a ten year old that gets hungry mid-day. We TRY to eat fruit, either plain, or one of my favorites - apple slices with cinnamon. Sometimes our snacks are veggies with hummus (usually carrots, but not always) or celery with almond butter. Occasionally we will have crackers with cheese. My FAVORITE - my homemade goat milk yogurt with berries! That said... Sometimes we get ice cream or gelato - child size for me! Erin

snorklee

POSTED: Sat, 05/26/2012 - 12:02am

Le Goûter

Even the French have le goûter, a late afternoon snack, which consists of a light bite, like pain au chocolate or some other small treat. So, why not plan a small healthy snack in the afternoon if we are peckish?

Kimberly

POSTED: Sat, 05/26/2012 - 10:56am

I agree...

I just discovered Nutella and now I am a big fan. Lately I have been having some Chibatta bread with a smear of the Nutella.

Kimberly

POSTED: Fri, 05/25/2012 - 1:04pm

Can't do three meals.

I found this post from before. I just can't do ONLY three meals a day. Maybe I can do 4 or 5 mini meals. This morning I had some naan bread which I topped with two slices of turkey deli meat, some parmesan cheese, some shredded mexican style cheese and come red onions. I had this as my breakfast at about 9:00 AM. Now at 11:30 I made a mixed fruit bowl with kiwi, strawberries, raspberries, blueberries and cantaloupe and I am having my London Cuppa and a greek yogurt. My next meal will be around the Time Geoff gets home from work which is between 3:30 and 4:00. My last "meal" of the day is usually around 7:00 PM Either of the last two meals is usually a salad with chicken and maybe a slice of bread. The last one is usually some soup or veggies with a dip or some multi-seed crackers with cheese. Is this too much to eat in a day? This is something new I have started. Does it seem like too much? I think it is more about what you eat and the quantity rather than the frequency. What do you think?

JSB

POSTED: Sat, 05/26/2012 - 11:33am

There a word for this...

when people start thinking and doing similar things,'tho miles apart.It escapes me at the moment.But I have been eating in a similar way,lately.I realized that I always feel satisfied when I eat small amounts of several foods.Rather like Tapas,Hors D'ouvres or Meze(as the Greeks say).My lunch yesterday,for example,was grape tomatoes,artichoke hearts,smoked clams,mango pieces.Supper was in the same vein.Just have to conquer the late night super snacking.All the flavours and colours are textures are very satisfying.I will not always be able to eat this way,as social commitments come up.Tomorrow evening I am going out for dinner,a birthday celebration for a good friend,and I will order from the Starter menu.Let's keep in touch on this,Kimberly and see how it goes.I think if we plan our food out over the day and make it a little ceremony,with lovely dishes and napkins,TV off,computer off,not standing at the counter etc.it could work.What do you think?Your menu looks pretty good,because it includes fruits and veg. and protein.OXO

newkid54

POSTED: Fri, 10/21/2011 - 12:49pm

Four smaller meals

I am of French Canadian decent. Having been in the American Southwest for many years, I too have this same problem....try staying to 3 meals a day with American and Mexican food constantly in the air! Simona, what as started working for me is 4 smaller meals. I can actually say my late afternoon meal is more of tea. I have a glass of iced tea and a cracker with cheese or a small piece of fruit with yogurt. Also, I serve many more veggies during meals. It keeps the calories done and fills me up. Hope this helps.

AngelaR

POSTED: Mon, 07/18/2011 - 7:20pm

Good

I'm generally pretty good about sticking to the three meals a day rule, but sometimes I slip. Usually its work stress related or "female time of the month" related. But I think one of the keys is drinking lots of water trhoughout the day. It really does feel you up.

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Naja

POSTED: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:43am

"Eat what you love, love what you eat!" by Michelle May, MD.

This is the title of one of the greatest books I've read on the subject of naturally thin people so far!!!! I recommend it with all my heart! Don't go through it superficially, read it slowly and incorporate EVERYTHING into your life! I already feel the difference and I haven't even reached half the pages yet!!!

snorklee

POSTED: Tue, 05/17/2011 - 7:13am

Hi Naja

I'll definitely pick up "Eat what you love..." I've heard of this book before. I also re-read Mireille's books from time to time. They are also the best. Cheers! Have a lovely day. Deb

Leahrose

POSTED: Sat, 02/12/2011 - 1:19am

My opinion is this: Have

My opinion is this: Have three meals a day, but also have two snacks. Now, hear me a moment. I believe what works best is spreading out your daily food intake more, having a small amount at the three main meals and then also a little bit as a snack in between. That way, when meal time comes around, you are not so desperately hungry and you dont have to each so much at once, for you know a snack will come later. So, you dont have to like this idea - it may not be what you are looking for - but this is my opinion and my way of eating. I still follow mireille's 3 meals/day, but i eat smaller portions and then 2 snacks as well.

Ava

POSTED: Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:05am

Absolutely!

I love the FWDGF recipes and general idea of eating, but I too have 5-6 'meals' a day. By meals, I mean; breakfast (e.g. porridge, yoghurt, fruit & tea); morning coffee (traditional name, but I actually have green or mint tea & fruit or nuts as a snack); lunch (e.g. soup or salad); afternoon tea (traditional name, but I usually have tea & fruit or nuts as a snack); dinner (e.g. fish or chicken & vegetables or salad with a dessert of fruit); supper (traditional name from the French souper) if I haven't had a dinner or am still feeling hungry before bed...then I'll have a bowl of soup or fruit. I drink green & mint tea throughout the day as well as water. Only two cups of normal tea (breakfast & afternoon tea) and a hot chocolate sometimes in the afternoon (depending on the weather! If it's cold & miserable - yes; sunny & warm - no!) My idea of 'meals' are small portions throughout the day. I know it seems like I eat a lot of food! I don't, but I do need regular intakes to stop migraines and low blood sugar levels. Of course, some days I feel like eating more than others, and because I do so many exercise classes, I make sure I eat at least 2 hrs before them (or eat dinner after them if they're in the evening...or have supper instead of dinner. It's all personal choice...and it's no good following a book if it doesn't suit you...you have to do what's right for your own body :-)

Most importantly, I make sure I get a really good variety of fresh fruit, vegetables & nuts. Plus enough servings of oily fish per week. Also, chicken, wholegrain pulses & beans etc. Lots of low GI foods that mean I don't feel hungry in-between meals. Lots of fluids & enough dairy. And of course, if I want a treat...I feel no guilt eating it - as long as it's delicious and I enjoy it! (this doesn't mean; crisps, cakes (unless utterly delicious!), chocolates or any kind of junk food. Believe you me, if you eat enough of the good stuff - your body doesn't want the rubbish and it'll let you know that...it's a very clever device we have...it just needs harnessing.)

Naja

POSTED: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:39am

Hey, Ava!

You must be a naturally thin person! Am I right?

Tori

POSTED: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 3:35pm

Ava...

... you and I eat IDENTICALLY!

Ava

POSTED: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 4:40pm

And

don't you just LOVE it! Mmmmmmm tasty stuff :-)

Tori

POSTED: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 4:54pm

I certainly do :)

It's weird, your eating pattern, and the types of things you eat are honestly just what I have myself. Oats, yoghurt, fruit for breakfast, apple and a few almonds (or similar) for my usual daytime snacks, salad/veggies plus mini portions of protein and carbs for lunch, and typically fish, seafood or chicken plus new potatoes/brown rice/quinoa and veggies for dinner. Obviously, some nights I'm more adventurous than others, but I live alone at present so tend to 'faire simple' ;) And I often have a bedtime 'supper' of fruit or maybe a little dish of plain 0% greek yoghurt and manuka honey, as dinner is fairly small and early for me, but 'really' it's the sweet element (dessert) of my dinner, 'saved' for my evening snack.

Ava

POSTED: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:43am

Exactly!

I find this way works best (having tried many others over the years!) It keeps me feeling fuller for longer (hence no desire for unhealthy snacks as a quick fix.) I don't eat everything I've planned if I'm not that hungry. I only eat enough to satisfy that hunger and whatever is left will do for another day or if freezable; goes in the freezer for whenever I need something quickly and haven't prepared anything else. My portions are small but regular. I'm looking forward to seeing what else you cook, as so far your dishes (what did you have for lunch thread etc) have sounded very tasty!

Naja

POSTED: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:54am

Hunger

I think the key-word to what you're saying here is "hunger". We have to retrain ourselves and reaquaint ouselves with our true hunger. You can have something small just to satisfy it, or perhaps if you are very hungry (but never ravenous) you can eat more without any guilt: in your next meal (when the first pangs hit you) you can (again) have something smaller. It's so liberating to eat this way!!!

Tori

POSTED: Sat, 02/12/2011 - 6:17am

I agree!

This is what I do. I much prefer it and it keeps my blood sugar even through the day. I have a set approximate calorie allowance in my head and divide it through the day, so, like you, I'm eating the same amount as if I just had it over three meals. It works better for me like that. I feel better if I eat just enough to make me feel contented and to have some energy, then in a few more hours, do the same again. Obviously, if I'm busy with something that takes my whole attention (like shopping!!!) I may not want or need to take the time to have a snack, so I 'incorporate' it into my lunch and allow myself more calories for that meal.

Tori

POSTED: Sat, 02/12/2011 - 6:25am

Furthermore...

I think the 'problem' people have with snacking (and what I suspect Mireille is actually preaching against) is when they are in fact having their normal meals and then have snacks as EXTRA to those meals. OF COURSE if we are trying to stay slim, we shouldn't eat extra food unless we are doing extra activity, or decide we will compensate for it later. But, having say 1500 cals in a day, divided into 5 meals is no different to having it divided into 3 meals, and for some people it suits them better.


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