POSTED: Fri, 03/29/2013 - 5:12am

10 basic items wardrobe

We have been having a brief discussion about ten basic items for your wardrobe in 'French Finds'. So ladies if you were constructing a basic 10 item wardrobe what would your basic items be? They may be different according to climate and life style. Think about it carefully and come up with your ideas. Ignore shoes, bags and other accessories as these are the items that ring the changes and can be discussed on another thread.
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POSTED: Mon, 08/03/2015 - 3:39pm

Saw this idea

I saw this idea that may be helpful in our efforts to winnow down our wardrobes: Move your clothing for the current season front and center in your closet. Rehang everything so the hangars are facing "backwards." IOW, if you normally hook hangars from the front of the closet rod, hook them from the back of the rod. After you've worn the item and/or laundered it, hang it normally (from the front). After a while, you will be able to tell what you wear often and what you don't by looking at the hangars.


POSTED: Mon, 08/03/2015 - 10:21pm


that is a handy idea.Will try it.Thanks.


POSTED: Wed, 02/04/2015 - 5:15pm


A cashmere,black cardiFor $38.00Love it.It is heavenly and does not make me itch as most wool does.


POSTED: Fri, 08/21/2015 - 12:32pm


That is so great!


POSTED: Wed, 02/04/2015 - 10:29pm


Pea green with envy here. Congrats on the new addition to your closet.


POSTED: Wed, 02/04/2015 - 5:22pm

Nice Jean!

What a find, enjoy!!


POSTED: Tue, 01/27/2015 - 8:01pm

Shucks! Just 10?

This will be hard: 1. Black capri trousers 2. Fitted white shirt 3. Leather Jacket (any color, prefer brown) 4. Great patterned long sleeve shirt (polka dot, some other pattern) 5. Black Blazer 6. Black or white turtleneck sweater 7. Good Burberry Trench Coat 8. A-Line skirt 9. Sleeveless Little black Sheath Dress 10.Red Cardigan Sweater


POSTED: Sat, 08/22/2015 - 9:38pm

Very nice, AngelaR

I Like that pop of red, too. -- Carol


POSTED: Mon, 02/02/2015 - 12:49pm

Why do I struggle?

I have tried to hard to have a basic wardrobe with 10 base items but I just cant. I have accumulated several jackets and coats since my move to England but not a trench. I want one for spring in yellow. It's such a fresh colour. I have lost 17.5 lbs since moving to England so as my clothes become too lose, I shall remember not to overspend when replacing them. Maybe it will be warmer weather by that time and I have not yet accumulated a summer wardrobe here.


POSTED: Sun, 08/23/2015 - 6:03pm


well done Kimberly.oxo


POSTED: Sun, 08/23/2015 - 1:51pm

10 categories, or 10 items?

Kimberly, I think what you and I are struggling with is the idea that you can have only 10 items. Period. But I think we might be misunderstanding. Having done some more reading on a 10-item wardrobe, I'm learning -- finally, duh -- that it can also refer to 10 *categories* of clothing. You buy a quality item in each category, and then complement/supplement as you wish. The categories are usually something like (from 1) jeans 2) trench coat 3) cashmere sweater 4) dress pants and/or skirt 5) blazer or leather jacket 6) white shirt 7) blouse 8) striped, nautical top 9) black dress 10) wrap dress. Most stylists and authors base their 10 item wardrobe on a version of this. Having said that, though, I remember that author Jennifer Scott wrote that her Madame Chic truly owned only 10 items of clothing for each season. I think it's really how you want to put it together. --Carol


POSTED: Sun, 08/23/2015 - 6:02pm


good discussion,my friends.Never really thought of it in category terms.that adds more flexibility.And living in a four season climate requires extra basics.Once did cut down to ten items onlyHad to shop as it wasn't enough.Of course buying the best quality one can afford is a good rule of thumb.


POSTED: Sat, 08/22/2015 - 9:35pm

Coats don't count.

I don't think outerwear or underwear count as part of the 10 items. I think it's just the core wardrobe that counts in the 10 items. I live in Chicago, where everyone owns at least two winter coats (one for regular winter days, another type for the way-below-zero-degree days), a trench coat, jackets for all types of weather and seasons, and hoodies. I also thought it was considered ok that you spend whatever you can on outerwear; IOW, buy the best you can afford, so they last a long while. And, in the interest of total truthfulness, I should explain I do have more items than 10 in my core wardrobe. I always call it my "10-item wardrobe," which I am striving toward, but I am still winnowing down. I see a couple more tank tops that are going to have to go (I love them, though, and I hate to, but they're really worn out), and I'll have to go through the sweaters when the weather gets cooler.--Carol


POSTED: Wed, 02/04/2015 - 5:23pm


Sounds like things are good Kimberly! Way to go!!


POSTED: Thu, 01/29/2015 - 7:35pm

Love it!

I want your wardrobe.Very chic.


POSTED: Wed, 01/28/2015 - 2:49am


A very workable wardrobe, AngelaR. You are inspiring me. :)


POSTED: Thu, 01/22/2015 - 10:33pm

Finally got my trench coat!

I have to rely on thrift store finds these days, and today, I finally found a long, London Fog, trench coat, in near-perfect condition, for $25. I drove that baby right to the cleaners, so I won't have it in my possession until tomorrow or the next day. I also found another coat, also long, a one-button beauty, quite elegant, I think, for -- are you ready?-- $15. So, for $50, including the dry cleaning, I got two "new" coats. (Sorry if this is posted in the wrong thread.) -- Carol


POSTED: Thu, 01/29/2015 - 7:37pm

It in now a certainty

We are sisters by other mothers.I got a fab.London Fog for $50.00,when I first moved to Ottawa.It still looks great.


POSTED: Thu, 01/29/2015 - 7:37pm

It in now a certainty

We are sisters by other mothers.I got a fab.London Fog for $50.00,when I first moved to Ottawa.It still looks great.


POSTED: Sat, 01/31/2015 - 10:10pm


Separated at birth, we were.


POSTED: Fri, 01/23/2015 - 1:55am


London Fog! What a great find! I'm definitely going to check out our thrift stores for a trench coat. I've never owned one.

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 5:37am

Thinking again.....

....I THOUGHT I had a handle on my personal style, and the wardrobe that worked for ME! It's been built around core 'investment' pieces, with seasonal 'on-trend' items to brighten it up. The tried and tested French formula. BUT, I now have to go back to the drawing board, and that involves hours of making lists of what has to be passed on, what can still work, and what has to be bought to give a functioning, practical wheelchair-appropriate wardrobe, that's still half-way chic! What's more, I'm discovering the hard way that there is a dearth of advice out there. (So much so, that my rehab. team are encouraging me to start my own blog on the topic, and I just might!!)

Clearly dresses and full-length coats can't be made to work. As I'm learning from my ever-patient OT, dressing independently means separates. So out go the trench coat, the camel-hair coat and the shift dresses. Similarly, knee-length pencil skirts can't work either. Neither can stiletto heels. Full skirts (never really liked them) are a definite NO-NO! cos they get caught up in wheels and brakes. AND have you ever noticed girls, that you look at least a size bigger when you're sitting down?? So just what do I have that works?

Well, trousers. I have dressy all-season ones in navy, black and ivory fine wool crêpe: they'll be fine. I also have more casual jeans in black, indigo and white; chinos in stone and navy; and an off-white and a coral linen pair: all fine too! Tops: A clutch of cotton and silk-blend tees in navy, black, ivory, camel; and cashmere or cashmere/merino sweaters in similar neutral colours; some classic bretons, PLUS a few tees and sweaters in 'brights' like jade or coral. Jackets: Not bad!! I have a navy blazer, a black tuxedo, a cropped black leather 'biker' and a buttery suede one in a light camel. A Chanel bouclé wool one in black, grey and ivory. (Hopefully),I can make all these work. And there is just ONE dress I am definitely keeping: a knee-length matte jersey LBD with elbow sleeves, a scoop neck and an A-line skirt which - together with my black and ivory silk palazzo pants will have to be the staples of an evening look.

And that, together with a fair selection of accessories is IT!! What has to be bought?? Well, perhaps a couple of below-the-knee A-line skirts; A warm quilted jacket in a neutral colour; and wedge-heels in both black and navy to replace the stilettos. And anything else I've forgotten that YOU might think of!!! :-)

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Sun, 08/25/2013 - 10:33am

Finished the re-think!

...I've had an exeat weekend, so the first chance to see most of the new purchases I made in the light of all I said above. It's now 4.00pm, and I've spent most of today on it, but I honestly think I have all the (wardrobe) elements I need for this new life! It's convinced me of the value of investing in a coherent capsule wardrobe, cos it has only needed minimal adjustments to adapt it to very different circumstances. What's more (with help from the boys) I've produced an Excel spreadsheet, and find I have over ninety different outfits, based on all the clothes I can carry over from my pre-aneurysm, working-mum constantly on-the-run life So just what have I bought?

The biggest investment was a mid-thigh Burberry trench with caped shoulders. A crucial 9" shorter than my other one (which my Mum's pleased to inherit), but still long enough to look sleek with dressy trousers, jeans, chinos, etc. Two black A-line skirts (I'd call them 'riding skirts')one wool crêpe, the other a heavy wool gaberdine, but both with just 3% lycra to sit smoothly. A pair of flat black leather riding boots (to go under the skirts, or over slim jeans). ONE luxury: a pair of Roger Vivier belle du jour ballet flats for evening. A clutch of classic cashmere/merino Wool Overs in basic colours (cheaper than my Parisian Eric Bompard pure cashmere, and possibly more durable. I already had EBs, but wanted to insure us against expensive replacements for a couple of years). And finally a navy pea-coat from a shop in Britanny specialising in nautical clothes (to replace my camel-hair long-coat, thanks again, Mum for relieving me of it!!). The crucial point is that EVERYTHING can be mixed and matched with what I already owned. And EVERYTHING came out of my 2013 clothing allowance (before it gets drastically curtailed as we adjust to a VERY pared-down lifestyle!). I SHOULD be fine for the next few years; just the odd on-trend accessory to buy to vamp it all up! :-)


POSTED: Mon, 08/26/2013 - 4:37am

You see

You see you are still an inspiration to us all regarding our wardrobes. I'm struggling to decide what to take on holiday for ten days and you have sorted your next few years! Perhaps I should have a copy of your spread sheet!! Seriously you (and the boys) have done a marvelous job. I'm going to review my wardrobe before I buy anything more for Autumn.


POSTED: Sun, 08/25/2013 - 9:00pm


It takes a lot of thought to make sure each and every piece of your wardrobe mixes and matches with something else. This is what I have been learning from you. Because of the summer and my more limited wardrobe, I haven't been worrying as much about what goes with what - I just throw it on. But now that Summer is turning into Fall, I have to go back to the drawing board and back to what I left off with...jettisoning the old, ratty, holey and pilling pieces, to make way for the new ones. The focus for me this Fall is to find new boots, the LBD, and a few more basic t shirts in white and charcoal. I don't really need anything else.

Now, what is everyone's thoughts on boots? Black or brown?


POSTED: Sun, 08/25/2013 - 8:50pm

I'm impressed.

I'll be using this for my homework as I work to put together my own 10-piece wardrobe.


POSTED: Sun, 08/25/2013 - 3:02pm

Very well done you!!

And well done to your terrific sons.You are a great example for us ,in many ways,dear Mairi.oxo

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Mon, 08/26/2013 - 6:09am

Marilyn, Suzanne, Carol, Jean (in fact, EVERYONE!!)

Thanks for the encouragement, girls! but you know what?? I've spent well over half my life in Paris, I OUGHT to have learnt a bit about this wardrobe planning lark in that time, huh???

YOU GIRLS, oth, have been so very generous with your time and your love to us all, YOU are truly the ones who inspire me. So let's make a deal: I'll continue to share what little insight I've gleaned over the past 30 years living in Froggieland, and you keep on rooting for us, huh?? Cos, trust me, we NEED the strength of this community! xxxx


POSTED: Sat, 07/13/2013 - 12:35pm

Off the top of my head

I'm not sure if this would work but what about opaque stockings with skirts and some fantastic boots? I haven't read all the posts yet so maybe this was already suggested. Sorry if I'm repeating someone elses idea.

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Mon, 08/26/2013 - 6:58am

Suzanne: you just answered your own question!! :-) ....

....I took your boots idea on board. Flat black riding boots to pair with my new longer-length 'riding skirts'. It's a great look: the knee-high boots and the skirt that comes below the top of the boot - no lines broken by several inches of leg!!! Slimming, and elongating. For what it's worth, I'd say DEFINITELY BLACK! Great, as I've just said, with A-line skirts; great over straight-leg jeans, and even very slimming over good quality, heavyweight fabric black leggings (sexy, too.....your legs seem to go on for ever!!). I've never understood why people shy away from leggings - though they do need to be balanced with a long-line tunic shape or loose chunky sweater to provide width to balance the slimline bottom half, imo! Finally black boots will be great for teaming with your future LBD for day-time (swap the boots for heels, pearls and perfume to take you straight out on the town!!) Go find yourself a pair-to-die-for. They'll last AGES and never date. Minimal trimming, and the softest leather you can afford. ENJOY the search, and the happy feeling you'll get from wearing them!! Ooooh!! Just had another thought: you could go day-into-evening with your boots. Imagine: boots, LBD, and your gold leather biker for a bit of bling - no jewellery, tho' - a great 'rocker chic' look, very Parisian!!!! xx

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POSTED: Fri, 07/12/2013 - 1:01pm

Dear Mairi

having read and retread your post,I have a number of thoughts.Since I am about to go to,work,I will reply at length later.oxo


POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 9:08am

Wow you amaze me

You have been giving it some thought. I think the idea of starting your own blog is tremendous idea when you are ready. The advice out there looks very 'fuddy duddy'. You could design your own as well.

All your lovely ballet flats and espadrilles will be fine as well. LEBEK do some lovely quilted jackets, summer and winter weight. You most likely will have thought of this but remember that when you sit down trousers ride up at the front hem showing an expanse of leg so you may have to think longer length trouser legs (I'm probably stating the obvious here). Could you manage a pull on dress like my new longer length Tshirt dress? It's just a long Tee, no zips, no buttons. Just a thought. I'll go away and think about it and see what else I can come up with. A bientot!

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:40am


Thanks for the LEBEK tip! I knew that Max Mara did some quite nice quilted coats cos I had one before, but I didn't know about this company. Need to see if they have outlets in France. I'm looking for something to replace my Burberry and my camel-hair coats. And, I've just realised this minute as I type that I won't have a free hand for an umbrella!!!

The trouser observation isn't 'obvious' at all. But I'm lucky there. Most of my 'smart' trousers were long enough to wear with heels (and had to be 'yanked up' when I was running in ballet flats) so I've tried them, and I think they'll be OK. The cream ones perhaps will need the hem adjusted. It'll probably be more of a concern with jeans and chinos. So far I've been OK, cos this Summer ankle-grazing ones seem to be 'in'. Hmm! You're right too about ballet flats and espadrilles. They'll be fine! BUT you're the author of this thread, and I re-read your instructions before posting. I'm not supposed to talk about 'accessories', right?? :-) So I didn't!!

The problem with a dress isn't the fastening, apparently. It's the dressing technique. Pants, tights, trousers, skirts all have to be put on lying on your back, doing a press-up to get them over the butt. THEN, you have to sit to do bra, sweaters, etc. (or vice versa). It's almost impossible to do 'press-ups' from a sitting position, so dresses and long coats don't work well, I'm told. Hey, I'm very much a learner, and for the moment can't do the press-ups anyway, tho' I'm working on 'em!! But the more experienced people here seem to think dresses are tough! EVEN SO, I simply must keep one LBD, huh?? So I'm making it the easiest one I've got!! Mairi, x0x


POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 8:51am

Some ideas for Mairi

First off I love the idea of a blog..I'm sure there a lot of women out there facing physical challenges that want to look fashionable. And I do believe it's hard to understand another's path unless you yourself have been down that yes Mairi start working on that blog ! As for ideas since it sounds like your fashion focus will be on the top..statement necklaces , good bras for support , form fitting tops , scarves , I'm thinking there will be upper body exercises and that will help to give you a trim look while sitting. Just some thoughts and I'm so very proud of you ! xo Marie-Jeanne

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:44am

Thanks, Marie-Jeanne..

..for your thoughts and encouragement! Most of your observations are spot-on. I'm proud to have YOU as my friend! x0x

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:48am

Tell you all one thing.....

...I'm going to make sure that my blog is CAPTCHA-free! (Bet this won't post now I've said that!!)


POSTED: Mon, 06/10/2013 - 6:24am


Maybe I missed it, but has anyone suggested basics for summer? I have a work and leisure wardrobe for "fall into winter into spring" but I am at a loss for an appropriate work and leisure wardrobe for those humid, sweltering days of summer that we get here. Any ideas?


POSTED: Mon, 06/10/2013 - 4:21pm


If you look back to the early posts on this thread, I posted my hypothetical capsule wardrobe. It consists of the items I was wearing the most at the time.

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Mon, 06/10/2013 - 11:47am

For Deb

Hi! I think you really have identified a glaring gap in the capsule wardrobe concept! It's much less of a problem for us in Europe, because we simply don't have too many 'humid, sweltering days'. :-(
Most of my basic 'învestment' pieces work for all seasons. For example the navy blazer gets worn with white jeans, linen pants (including palazzos), chinos or a summery skirt (this year, for example, I bought a navy and ivory polka dot A-line skirt in a linen and slub-silk blend). Thus I can wear the navy blazer with 1) a classic navy-and-white breton top and white jeans; 2)ivory-coloured linen palazzo pants, a navy knitted silk tee, and a navy-and-ivory 'wrinkled' silk scarf; 3)coral-coloured palazzo pants and the same navy tee with some coral jewellery; with an ivory OR navy tee and the polka-dot skirt; 4) over indigo jeans or bermuda shorts in navy, white or beige (usually with a navy cotton or silk tee: sleeveless, cap-sleeved, long-sleeved, depending on the weather; 5) over the three (yep! that is ALL, I'm afraid) true Summer dresses I own: one a jade halter-neck; one a cream and navy shirt-waister; the last a soft coral lin en-blend shift. Shoe-wise it's ballet flats; espadrilles; or Tropezienne sandals, depending on the weather. Espadrilles (the genuine flat canvas-and-rope flats are cheap enough to buy in multiples to add the 'pop of on-trend colour' to an otherwise neutral palette, I find). I think there might be elements of this mix-and-match collection that would work even in your sweltering heat. Perhaps the breton (or at least a short-sleeved version)? Maybe white jeans, or cooler linen palazzzo pants perhaps? Bermudas? (These can even be dressy enough for the office.) Cool St Tropez sandals paired with dresses in natural fibres? Like I said, recent Summers have been pretty dismal here in Paris, although we do have a few days when the thermometer climbs to over 30°, even 35°. BUT down on the Côte d'Azur it gets very hot far more often, and the breton or other cool tee, white pants or shorts, espadrilles or Tropezienne formula is almost an über-chic uniform in Nice or Cannes. Hope this gives you a few ideas, though you're right, the basics-that-work-in-all-seasons formula doesn't really take into account extremes of climate, does it? :-)


POSTED: Mon, 06/10/2013 - 5:20am

A book recommendation for this thread

I was reading this book over the weekend.."Secondhand Chic " by Christa Weil. It's written in 1999 but a great resource for how to look for quality items , how garments should fit and whether you shop new , vintage , or thrift there are some wonderful and practical ideas on how to make your wardrobe the best for you.


POSTED: Mon, 05/27/2013 - 4:03pm

Dear Sheri

Thank you for the idea...I know just the woman for that purse ! Merci !


POSTED: Mon, 05/27/2013 - 9:29am

A navy scarf and pearl studs

Yesterday I ordered a navy floral scarf ( silk ) and pearl stud earrings. Items that should work well with my list. I ordered from Lands End after doing some research and reading the customer reviews. I find them helpful when ordering on line. I am having some buyers remorse over a pink purse I bought yesterday at a thrift store. It was one of those's a designer leather purse and its only $2.99 moments ! But today is a new day ! xo Mj


POSTED: Mon, 05/27/2013 - 3:32pm

A good gift?

Everything sounds wonderful! And maybe the pink purse would make a good "I was thinking of you" gifts for someone who would use the purse?


POSTED: Mon, 05/20/2013 - 4:05pm

I am so Inspired

By all of you! Many thanks. I just love being here and reading the postings and getting ideas from everyone. The underwear, sleepwear, pearls, ballet flats, pedicures (!). The French woman knows how to shop, that is for sure. Having just finished Everything You Need to be Impossibly French and reading Une Ecossaise's posts - it seems the book is quite true. AND, quite by coincidence, there is going to be a very rare lingerie sale (wholesale) by Christine(she is Vancouver based but supplies Saks and other big name American stores) this Friday. 70% off. She works with silk and lace. I'm taking a bit of time off to go as this is my only chance to afford such a luxury (and I know my OH would just love for me to get rid of the flannel!). I guess I will have to get used to the hand washing. Like you, Une Ecossaise, I too live with a house full of men and their football gear! Lol! Happy Monday!


POSTED: Mon, 05/20/2013 - 7:47pm


How nice to look forward to buying new undies.Silk and lace sounds marvelous.Spoil yourself rotten,dear girl.oxo


POSTED: Mon, 05/20/2013 - 2:39pm


The truth about Parisiennes!I love it.And I love the bit about the undies.We all have something to bring to the world.And I do appreciate your contribution here.oxo


POSTED: Sat, 05/18/2013 - 10:28am

Following this thread

and since I am at work,I may be able to post.My wardrobe is getting pared down and I am liking it.Decided I would buy scrub pants for work but can't find a proper fit.Most vexing.Have to rethink that plan.You all sound quite stylish.Have a fine weekend. oxo


POSTED: Sat, 05/18/2013 - 2:14pm


Do you no know a reasonable dressmaker who could alter the scrub pants to fit. It may be worth it to be comfortable and stylish.


POSTED: Mon, 05/20/2013 - 2:41pm

Hi Marilyn

Not worth it for scrubs.Think I'll order on line.oxo

une Ecossaise à...

POSTED: Mon, 05/13/2013 - 5:32am

My personal life-style list of (about) ten

I think the obsession with this whole concept has become a source of amusement here in France cos quite simply, with a few personal variations, it's how les francaises are taught by their mothers and grandmothers to dress. But for what it's worth, as a middle-aged working Mum here in Paris, these are the staples of my wardrobe: the absolute 'must-haves'; blue-chip items I invested much-fine-gold in acquiring and which I expect to last for years: - a Little Blag Dress (I actually have several)cos it's perfect dawn-till-midnight wear with just a change of accessories - my Burberry trench-coat (mine's classic beige, but some women prefer black) and a top-stitched camel-hair coat for Winter warmth - a black tuxedo jacket which I wear with all three following: - some super wool crêpe palazzo pants - a knee-length slim skirt; well-cut, good fabric = v. sexy - well-cut jeans. I prefer mine to be boot-leg and dark indigo (tho' I'm cheating a bit here cos I also have a black straight-leg pair, and white ones for Summer); - a classic navy and white Breton sweater in good quality cotton (and accurately matched stripes on shoulder and side seams) - a black leather short jacket (all seasons, specially Winter) and a buttery-soft camel suede one (lighter weight for Spring) - a shoe wardrobe built around the following: a few pairs of ballet flats (for shopping, métro-hopping, walking across city in comfort); a pair of black patent-leather stilettos; a pair of riding boots; some St Tropez sandals ('les Tropeziennes'); a pair of rope-soled flat espadrilles - a few cashmere sweaters ('les basiques') which can be accesorized with bright on-trend bits and bobs - an evening and occasion clutch; a well-polished big leather bag for everyday; a shoulder-slung leather handled straw 'pannier du marché' - a classic silk twill foulard (Hermès) and a few other brighter ones - a really good classic watch, some pearls, pearl ear-studs; a couple of fine gold chains. ET VOILA!... that really is my ENTIRE outer wardrobe. I suspect it's similar for most Paris-dwellers. It needs the very best coat hangers (sandalwood smells nice!), and friendly but efficient dry-cleaners and cobblers to keep a small wardrobe impeccable. Of course, there are a few on-trend buys as well. A Summer dress or two. Some basic tees. ALWAYS, ALWAYS good-fitting sexy lingerie. Adventurous we might not be...but we do TRY to be quietly elegant. Any thoughts from across the pond? Advice welcome!


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